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I realize this is a rather long read but I have read it in the past and a friend sent it to me again this morning and requested I forward it. I thought I would forward it here as I think it is a great reminder of truth.   Cemetery Watchmen .   My friend Kevin and I are volunteers at a National cemetery in Oklahoma and put in a few days a month in a 'slightly larger' uniform. Today had been a long, long day and I just wanted to get the day over with and go down to Smokey's and have a cold one. Sneaking a look at my watch, I saw the time, 16:55 . Five minutes to go before the cemetery gates are closed for the day. Full dress was hot in the August sun Oklahoma summertime was as bad as ever--the heat and humidity at the same level--both too high. I saw the car pull into the drive, '69 or '70 model Cadillac Deville, looked factory-new. It pulled into the parking lot at a snail's pace.. An old woman got out so slow I thought she was paralyzed; she had a cane and a sheaf of flowers--about four or five bunches as best I could tell. I couldn't help myself. The thought came unwanted, and left a slightly bitter taste: 'She's going to spend an hour, and for this old soldier, my hip hurts like hell and I'm ready to get out of here right now!' But for this day, my duty was to assist anyone coming in. Kevin would lock the 'In' gate and if I could hurry the old biddy along, we might make it to Smokey's in time. I broke post attention. My hip made gritty noises when I took the first step and the pain went up a notch. I must have made a real military sight: middle-aged man with a small pot gut and half a limp, in marine full-dress uniform, which had lost its razor crease about thirty minutes after I beganthe watch at the cemetery. I stopped in front of her, halfway up the walk. She looked up at me with an old woman's squint. 'Ma'am, may I assist you in any way?' She took long enough to answer. 'Yes, son. Can you carry these flowers? I seem to be moving a tad slow these days.' 'My pleasure, ma'am.' (Well, it wasn't too much of a lie.) She looked again. 'Marine, where were you stationed?' ' Vietnam , ma'am.. Ground-pounder. '69 to '71.' She looked at me closer. 'Wounded in action, I see. Well done, Marine. I'll be as quick as I can.' I lied a little bigger: 'No hurry, ma'am.' She smiled and winked at me. 'Son, I'm 85-years-old and I can tell a lie from a long way off.. Let's get this done. Might be the last time I can do this. My name's Joanne Wieserman, and I've a few Marines I'd like to see one more time..' 'Yes, ma 'am. At your service.' She headed for the World War I section, stopping at a stone. She picked one of the flower bunches out of my arm and laid it on top of the stone. She murmured something I couldn't quite make out.. The name on the marble was Donald S. Davidson, USMC: France 1918.  She turned away and made a straight line for the World War II section, stopping at one stone I saw a tear slowly tracking its way down her cheek. She put a bunch on a stone; the name was Stephen X.Davidson, USMC, 1943. She went up the row a ways and laid another bunch on a stone,Stanley J. Wieserman, USMC, 1944.. She paused for a second and more tears flowed. 'Two more, son, and we'll be done' I almost didn't say anything, but, 'Yes, ma'am. Take your time.' She looked confused.. 'Where's the Vietnam section, son? I seem to have lost my way.' I pointed with my chin. 'That way, ma'am.' 'Oh!' she chuckled quietly. 'Son, me and old age ain't too friendly.' She headed down the walk I'd pointed at. She stopped at a couple of stones before she found the ones she wanted. She placed a bunch onLarry Wieserman, USMC, 1968, and the laston Darrel Wieserman, USMC, 1970. She stood there and murmured a few words I still couldn't make out and more tears flowed. 'OK, son, I'm finished. Get me back to my car and you can go home.' Yes, ma'am. If I may ask, were those your kinfolk?' She paused. 'Yes, Donald Davidson was my father, Stephenwas my uncle, Stanleywas my husband,Larryand Darrelwere our sons. All killed in action, all Marines.' She stopped! Whether she had finished, or couldn't finish, I don't know. She made her way to her car, slowly and painfully. I waited for a polite distance to come between us and then double-timed it over to Kevin, waiting by the car. 'Get to the 'Out' gate quick.. I have something I've got to do.' Kevin started to say something, but saw the look I gave him. He broke the rules to get us down the service road fast. We beat her. She hadn't made it around the rotunda yet. 'Kevin, stand at attention next to the gatepost. Follow my lead.' I humped it across the drive to the other post. When the Cadillac came puttering around from the hedges and began the short straight traverse to the gate, I called in my best gunny's voice: 'TehenHut! Present Haaaarms!'   I have to hand it to Kevin; he never blinked an eye--full dress attention and a salute that would make his DI proud. She drove through that gate with two old worn-out soldiers giving her a send-off she deserved, for service rendered to her country, and for knowing duty, honor and sacrifice far beyond the realm of most. I am not sure, but I think I saw a salute returned from that Cadillac. Instead of 'The End,' just think of 'Taps.' As a final thought on my part, let me share a favorite prayer:  'Lord, keep our servicemen and women safe, whether they serve at home or overseas. Hold them in your loving hands and protect them as they protect us.' Let's all keep those currently serving and those who have gone before in our thoughts.  They are the reason for the many freedoms we enjoy. 'In God We Trust.' Sorry about your monitor; it made mine blurry too! If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under!

No, only one person can claim to be a game changer on an already existing 10-20 year old technology.

Queue up the Memphis bashing....3....2....1.

I lost all respect for him when he ćrapped on his wife (sandra bullock) with a sleazy trash bag with a fetish for nazis. Adulterous whore.

I am having trouble with the TheAffordableBoatAct.gov website.   I called Tech support and got Snowden.

I've always thought if their end goal was a single payer system, then the ACA was a brilliant opening move, as no private entity can compete with an organization that is willing to operate at a loss quarter after quarter. If you're really wanting a good conspiracy theory to chew on, maybe the "failed" rollout was actually planned to accelerate the transition... Personally, I don't buy that theory. I don't think they're smart enough to pull it off.

  Here's the way I look at it... if you want lots of great barbecue, you're just gonna have to put up with bullet holes in your pipes.

When .22 is available in Knoxville, TN and via on-line distributors with no restrictions then the famine has ended.   We are a long, long way away from that.   So enjoy and talk up the random sightings.  This is not going to end anytime soon.

    Sorry, no owner impression, here.  Honestly, when I first saw in one of the gun rags that Taurus was going to do a 9mm carbine, I kind of eagerly flipped over to read the article.  The wind was taken out of my sails by the '10 round proprietary mag' statement.  My thought was, "Well, then, it has zero benefit over my Hi Point 9mm carbine that has been 100% reliable and also uses 10 round, proprietary mags.  At least Hi Point carbine mags are, supposedly, compatible with their handguns (but not vice versa - the handgun mags don't work in the carbine.)"   Then I saw the projected price tag and thought, "Okay, so now the Hi Point has an obvious advantage over the Taurus.  Price."  I see nothing about the Taurus that would make its end user value worth any more than the Hi Point, to me, much less more than double the price.

I hope his firearms are better designed than his website, that hurt my eyes.

I'd be very hesitant about walking around with a long gun in the opening hours of a disaster, even a large scale one.  At the beginning there will probably still be some semblance of law and order, and I'd rather not draw that kind of attention to myself.  For me the most likely situation would be having to get from my office in an urban area to home in a rural one across 35 miles and a couple rivers or creeks.  Rather than the weight and attention of a long gun, better to have a concealable sidearm, water, CASH (sorry no one's going to be bartering copper rounds and fish hooks at this point), good shoes, and protection from the elements.    Another issue that I think about, probably best for a new thread, is communication.  Are your kids in school?  Spouse working on the other side of town?  What if the phones are down?  How do you link up?  This is something to which I've given some thought but haven't really come up with a plan.

That tenant is lucky it wasn't his wind pipe that was busted!

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This is insanity. Since when can the president just change laws? If he can change this one, he can change any law. He is now a dictator.

Even *if* you can get back your cancelled plans, he mentions NOTHING of retaining the former premium rates.

This is nothing but trying to give Democratic lawmakers cover to avoid voting for the House Republican plan being offered tomorrow.   It sounds like a delay, but pragmatically it exactly nothing.  Health Insurance companies have already acted in good faith, assuming the law would be implemented.  The plans have already been cancelled.  And none of them are going to jump through hoops to act against their own self interest (any more so than the ACA already requires) to renew a plan that's going to be constantly bad mouthed and cancelled again in a year anyway.   And yet...

Unfortunately, the business world is a bit more complicated than a grade school playground.  "Do-overs" don't really work in an adult environment.   And the 7 million or so whose plans have already been canceled?  Are those plans suddenly 'un-cancelled'?  If so, this is black Friday for the insurance industry.   The law was so bad it required massive bribery and massive lying to the people to pass it.  The law is so bad that to actually enforce it would cause devastation to the Democrat party (thus the delay of the employer mandate).  The law is so bad that the ratio of people who have so far lost their insurance to the number of people who have actually gotten insured is better than 50 to 1.   Hey, "It's the law of the land".  "Wanting to delay Obamacare means you're a bomb throwing terrorist".  "Only whacko-birds would try to stop this".  "I insist on full and immediate implementation of Obamacare  There will be no negotiation, and I will ensure the American people feel the greatest pain from any (microscopically partial) government shutdown".     You know what?  I insist on full and immediate implementation of Obamacare as well.  (It's the very best way to get it repealed).   I guess Obama has pivoted to jobs - the jobs of Democrats in Congress.

This has been an interestin thread; with lots of stuff to think about...   I tend to look at the historical and here's what i see....   The 1911 semiauto pistol wuz the replacement for that greatest of indian war killers the colt single action army...  It wuz birthed at a time when the good ole us army needed to upgrade it's handgun arsenal at a time when there were troopers in the army and marine corps who were genuine steely eyed grim reapers who well knew what a handgun wuz for and knew exactly how to use it; and those troopers were in both the officer and enlisted ranks...    The semiauto pistol wuz "the next new thing"; just as the machine gun wuz at that time; and the army wuz interested in exploring the practicability of a hard use handgun for calvary use (....remember, this wuz the time when the calvary wuz still the king of battle...)...   The military well remembered the poor performance of the 38 caliber pistols in the Philippine insurrection and many of the old time troopers would not give their beloved single action armies up in that best of old time killers, the 45 Colt....     It's no accident that the military ultimately adopted a semiauto pistol in a 45 caliber; simply because it was a shortened version of the old 45 Colt....  The pistol was a success with men who actually knew about killin (...unlike many of the "so called pistol experts" of today...)... The old timers liked the external hammer and the quick reload of the 1911... The rest, as they say, is history....   The fact is that the 1911 came along at exactly the right time in history... It wasn't a "God Inspired" genius thing; it was the next step in pistol design...  It wuz made in a caliber that wuz a proven killer in the right hands...Simply put, it wuz an updated 45 Colt ALA the old time single action army calvary model from 1873...   The 1911 has reigned supreme on the battlefields and in the hands of the "real steely eyed killers" for over 100 years now... Its only real challengers are the utilitarian plastic pistols made by the pesky Austrians at Glock and the lesser children that are copies of this ground-breaking design... The next classic will be the Glock in whatever flavor ya like.... I tend to think that the 45 ACP is a helluva idea in a Glock; along with the 10 mm; but that's just me...   I'll end this little musing by sayin that the 1911 is a great thing... We've got several of em... I used to carry one... But it's just a "thing" man; as the ole hippy would say.... My only problem with them now; is that they are just too expensive to carry...The next big thing is the Glock; and it's here now...   All this from an old time blue steel and walnut S & W and Colt snob who never saw an N frame smith, a colt single action, or a colt 1911 he didnt like....There aint none of 'em i aint carried... I like 'em all....   Havin said that, all of our blue steel and walnut guns are in honored retirement (...with the exception of a special 629 my 24 year old carries; he just wont give 'em up....), occasonally pulled out to look at an praise the greatness of on warm, sunny days, shown to dear friends and admirers on special occasions...   The "working and carryin" guns that protect the person and the house are the big and little glocks....The others are just collectors pieces from another, greater time and place....   leroy, the 1911 admirer and glock user....

  and here we are 12 years later and you can still download illegal music

  Rednecks with GUNS  :eek:   Where?

  That thing's a beast! I just can't justify spending that kind of money on Jeeps anymore since my discovery of the M35A2/A3, haha. ;)

Gut a deer... Now I didn't do it, but I was there when it was happening. (It was in a basement... but the smell didn't stay there)

  That sucks man. I got Peggy and he walked me thru it no sweat.

    Yep, exactly. Just commenting on how to to be invisible with one in vehicle or on person in normal times. Notice I didn't recommend anything but a normal full sized handgun and extra ammo in the case of getting home on foot. Still think low profile stealth mode a better bet than humongous firepower.   Then again, I dunno, real tennis nuts during SHTF? Hey, none of the courts would be be reserved! And for golf nuts, walk onto any course free! ;)   - OS

I sure wish I could start ordering parts for this. It's killin' me! I'm just going to have to wait until after Christmas to move forward with mine. My first purchase will likely be a PRI Gen3 rifle-length handguard in black (unless I change my mind again :) )

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I wish it was true and a positive sign, but I still just don't see it happening anytime soon. I'm with others. I stocked up years ago and don't shoot it that much. What I have should last years to come. And I really don't have that much compared to others.

I've got a 6.5in model I picked up in June for a present for my Girlfriend. She loves it and it's dead on accurate at hitting a 8in metal plate at about 25yds. I paid 140$ for it (a little too much looking at prices now) with just the LR cylinder. She love's it and it's been great. Haven't shot it much as I've only been able to aquire on bulk box of 22 in about a yr. You are gonna wanna check the screws on it from time to time as they do have a habit of lossening from time to time but it only takes about 2min while cleaning to make sure they're all good. Also when I last checked, about a week ago, you can still buy the WMR from them for 30$ I picked up a set of grips for it off ebay in poor condition and painted them with a pink and black snakeskin pattern for her. [url=http://s294.photobucket.com/user/willindsay/media/image_5.jpeg.html][/URL]

3D plastic guns: US lawmakers seek ban on national security grounds http://rt.com/usa/banning-undetectable-plastic-firearms-697/

      The confusion is intentional.  He is trying to confuse low-info voters about who is responsible.  "We didn't do it, it was those wascally insurance companies"!

Good. Obviously the hundred or so people killed by AR-15s each year will increase 10,000% once all those urban gangs start firing up their 3D printers. I heard al Qaeda was finally gonna be able to carry out conventional attacks on our soil since getting a few of the hundreds of millions of firearms already in circulation here in the states were so impossible to acquire.

Its Fighting Sheep Dog Firearms. We will be selling guns and ar lowers as well as making contacts and pushing our gunsmithing and duracoat services and our survival, knifemaking and shooting classes. make sure you stop by and say hi brother. Its been awhile Tapatalk ate my spelling.

I have the golden rod or equivalent, and a hygrometer to measure the humidity as well.  My safe came with an wire accessory hole in the back for both my installed extra lights, and golden rod.  My safe is on a hardwood floor, and we did use felt on the floor as a way to keep the safe from marking the floor when we scooted it into final position.  Then we simply trimmed the access felt away, and the safe footprint is still on the felt.  And most important, I have my safe bolted through the floor using 3/4 diameter case hardened bolts, the carriage head type, so someone from underneath the floor could not easily grip the bolts, plus one extra step, instead of using washers underneath the floor, I used a large steel plate, and then I tacked welded the bolts to the plate.  

I tried to watch that video clip but I couldn't stomach it.  Most arrogant and obnoxious #%**#! I can imagine.  I thought she showed a lot of restraint to take what he was "shipping".   

I wish we could send him to the front line. On second thought... that's a bad idea because I'm sure he would run away crying like a coward. It's ironic that he's too dumb to even realize those veterans gave him the freedom to say that. Try moving to N. Korea and criticize their flag, Chis.

I would like to have a Ma Deuce right now, with one of those little round Obama stickers right on the receiver :)

I recently purchased a Work Sharp and I love it.

I dump mine in my back field & hunt the coyotes & crows that come to drag it off!

The old adage that 'a 9mm might expand, but a .45 won't shrink' not withstanding, there's just something comforting about about 230 gr. round ball. Makes me warm inside. 

It's interesting that the Grendel loads I'm working up have more energy at 1000 yards than the 3 popular pistol calibers have at the muzzle.

Pretty lame but calling a boycott over what looks like a screw up by a single individual in a chain that hires many tens of thousands of bottom of the barrel type employees is possibly a drastic over-reaction to this?   I mean, they made the offer and probably gave away thousands of bucks worth of burgers to vets across the country.  ONE of em did not get his burger due to a screw up.  I can't get mad at the whole chain over THAT.  They did not have to give away anything at all... 

DaveS it wasn't the Unit (101St Abn Div) per say, it was the lack of leadership, leadership that was just looking out for their own skin and not their soldiers, when the CG gets popped for 5 DUIs, CSM gets a new house, and soldiers left and right get canned, something is wrong.. BTW, the CG later became 18th ABN CG and more later on , totally skewed my willingness to stay in.  Funny how, I'm not the only one that has felt the same way about 101st..    DMark, yup Ugly Eddie.. Going from Infantry to ABN Infantry to Aviation (Leg) with no respect for unit history, didn't entice me to stay longer or even reenlist to get the hell out of there..        BTW, the .Mil was great to me and yes, I miss it, just certain aspects of it, were not fun.. Thank you all for your service..

  This would be a good argument for a Keltec SU16C.    Honestly, I'd probably just carry a full sized .357 revolver (GP100 etc..) and use the saved weight for some extra ammo.

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Sorry, I can't conceive of a way to pull a trigger, have the gun flip all the way back into my face, and then pull the trigger again.

If you're going to go into the thug business, you have to realize it has some hazards. Quit yer whining.

  Would that have been Jerusalem Daylight Time, Golgotha Standard, or what? ;)   - OS

I imagine the office asked her to unload it as an alternative to taking possession of the weapon for the duration of the stop which is something the law specifically allows for reasons of "officer safety". My question to the officer would be to ask how having me handle my weapon helps increase his safety? Wouldn't the weapon staying put in its holster be a much safer course of action for everyone involved?