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We are looking at either a double failure of the sear and firing pin safety or an unintentional trigger pull. I suspect the firing pin safety was always a marginal design. I also suspect having a wide trigger with minimal ability to resist external objects activating it is obfuscating the whole issue. I don’t know how this will end up but my money is on some combination of tolerance stack and frame flex that can result in a small percentage of guns discharging without the trigger being pulled.

The manual safety isn't the end all solution, there's been a confirmed report of AD in the military since they've been issued, involving a Sgt. in the Army, with another dozen or so "unconfirmed" reports as well that are currently under investigation throughout the other branches. Sure there is room for negligence, holster could've pushed the safety off during re-holstering, and then unwanted pressure on the trigger, a lot of people seem to be attempting to blame holsters as the main issue, but I've carrying for 8 years, all manner of handguns and carry platforms, even made my own holsters for awhile, without issues, the simple fact is, Sig took the 320 design from the 250 platform, took away the hammer fire action and replaced it with a striker fired one, and made no safety precautions while doing so. The first run of the 320 was proven to drop fire, not just by civilians, but also gun professionals, cops, and the military. The military proving this is what caused Sig to do the whole "upgrade" thing where if you sent it back they'd make it "drop-safe." Then for military trials they needed to incorporate a manual safety. Cue Sig's design team, doing the bare minimum. It's very sad to see them come from a company that produced the 226 and it's many proven variants, as well as some of the earliest advancements in handgun design along with CZ, HK, and Walther, to making a design that can't compete with a gen2 Glock in terms of reliability.

My second visit here. The first was forty-one years ago. Here are a couple photos of the Changing of the Guard at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. Guards carry the M14 rifle and the Sergeant of the Guard has an M17 P320 Sig Sauer.

Got for sale a very sharp little Rossi Trapper in 45-70. The 16.5in barrel really makes this a dandy little pack gun. Looking to get $700 outta this one, has had two boxes of LeverEvolution shot through it.

Ask yourself: "Self, would you be perfectly comfortable carrying a loaded (cartridge in the chamber, hammer cocked) model 1911 if it had no thumb safety and no grip safety?" If the answer is "Yes", then the no-thumb-safety Sig P320 is the modern striker fired pistol for you! I do not believe P320s are 'just going off' by themselves. I believe the trigger pull is light enough, and short enough, and that the trigger is wide enough with a squarish profile that it is getting pressed/moved enough to fire by holsters distorting in odd ways (especially ones big enough to accommodate a weapon mounted light or laser), strings or shirt tails getting into the trigger area, or any number of situations that allow pressure or drag to occur on the trigger tip, edge, or face. Sig made a Glock...but with a lighter trigger pull and no tab (drop safety) in the center of the trigger. Subtle changes but problematic changes as time and accidental discharges are showing. Glock had its share of accidental discharges, too, when it first came out. There is a learning curve w/new designs. I don't think the 320 is a learning curve issue. It's an issue w/a company pushing the striker fire design too close to being a cocked 1911 with no thumb safety ('lock') to engage or grip safety present to prevent an accidental discharge. The military versions of the P320 (M17/M18) all come with a manual thumb safety. There is a reason for that. I think Sig can save their gun by either installing a heavier trigger pull and adding a drop safety tab in the trigger face OR only selling the P320 model with a manual thumb safety. (Perhaps there is a third option? Installing a grip safety like that on the Springfield Armory XD pistols so pressure on the trigger alone will not allow the gun to fire.) But doing anything now looks like an admission of a problem and I can't see them doing that. So the uncommanded discharges will continue until they either get sued to bankruptcy or they drop the P320 model number, make the needed changes, and then announce their new and improved "plastic fantastic", the Sig P3200!

I've always been accused of being a man of little emotions. I've visited several Veteran Cemetaries in France and Luxemburg during my time in Europe and couldn't stop the tears just knowing what these brave individuals sacrificed.

Personally, I think Mora knives are the best bang for your buck in all the knife world. I think I have 5 or 6 of them.

I avoided responding earlier, but the 1911 analogy is flawed. Just stop. Guns can be safe without being made of steel or having grip safeties and thumb safeties. Technology has advanced past that. The supposed problem with the Sig P320 doesn't have anything to do with the trigger being pulled, so a thumb safety isn't the answer and neither is giving it a trigger safety "dingus" like Glocks and others use. Further, the P320 has a firing pin safety, but it inserts less material in front of the striker than a Glock, M&P or similar do. The supposed problem with the P320 has to do with the dimunitive contact patch or engagement area between the sear and the striker, and perhaps even variances in machining tolerances for the bits and pieces that are supposed to work together to prevent the striker from moving forward without a trigger pull causing the sear to fall. This is supposedly why some guns do it and others don't. It's also probably what Bruce Grey and team are inspecting when they review a customer's gun. 1911 and 2011 guys are foaming at the mouth to get in on this topic all across social media because it makes them feel relevant, but it's just noise. The lack of external safeties ain't the problem.

Plain old mil-spec Kabar has always worked for me.

Like new beretta 1301 tactical. Comes with everything that it came with factory besides the box. $1500 No trades. Located in Athens

Oh, I like this. It has a snowball in hell chance of passing ... but I still like it. I have my dad's old goose gun ... a double barrel 32" full choke 10 gauge ... that should work nicely. https://fox17.com/news/local/tennessee-congressman-proposes-allowing-property-owners-to-shotgun-low-flying-drones?fbclid=IwY2xjawI-hWFleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHTxmemrHZvs3NsO5ZIkH6AUQwD5qqI0hzLSVJw4kgIdFBRkzAjlacWAqMw_aem_t8DH4b3aIZTeP6wsiejuLw

As I woke up to see 20 on the weatherbug this morning I figured it was the perfect time to get this listed 2006 Volkswagen Beetle Convertible 90,000 miles Woman owned 2.5L 5 cylinder automatic 16" Aluminum wheels Power convertible top with heated glass rear window ( top is in great shape and works flawlessly BUT see below ) Leather interior in good shape Paint is in good shape but does have some dings scratches etc given the age Brakes and tires are in good shape New Battery Clear Tennessee title Never wrecked, clean carfax. The biggest negative this car has is the convertible top material has started to separate from the glass. My research found this was common in this car as well as convertibles with tops that were mfg in a similar fashion. While you can drop the top and cruise in the open air to your hearts content when the top is up you have a gap around the glass that will need repaired or at the least covered. As to be expected there are YT videos showing repair options and if you really wanted to you can buy a new top and have it installed. This option is not realistic unless you can buy a top and do it yourself which is possible if you're mechanically inclined. The car still has plenty of life left in it I just need the room. Price is $6,000 I am in east tn but I will deliver this car anywhere for the additional cost of fuel. I will post more pics when time allows. Please pm me with any questions.

SOLD

Colt single action army. First generation, 38WCF blue, 4 3/4 barrel serial number 284603, 1905. Price $2950

Selling two (2) stripped AR-15 lowers from Anderson Manufacturing. Both are in new condition and have never been used. Would prefer to sell as a pair but can sell individually Perfect for your next AR build Price: $40 each or $75 for both (cash only) Location: Can meet in the Chattanooga area. Requirements: Buyer must have a valid TN carry permit. Serious inquiries only. Message for details or to arrange a meetup.

Yes I have a few as well, put them in emergency packs or bags and vehicles.

Yup I have the issued military survival knife made by Ontario. I like the Kabar as well. And my old buck special is pretty darn good too. Also like the mora knives military or outdoor grade.

That is NOT proven to be the case with the P320. Again, tolerance stacking within the sear and striker components seems like a possible culprit.

Like so many wild claims; the truth comes down to Operator Error

Glock 29 Gen 3 10mm Trigicon HD night sights with Yellow front X3 Magazines with Pinkie Extension T&T Custom Leather holster and dual magazine in the waste band Holders SOLD

Arlington is definitely a humbling experience. The thoughts of all the sacrifices is overwhelming .

Carrying a loaded Sig P320 with no thumb safety is the equivalent of carrying a loaded 1911 with the hammer cocked...and no thumb safety to engage. And that's crazy to me. You have a gun ready to fire as soon as 4.5lbs of pressure finds its way to that trigger, regardless if it was intentional or not. I don't think the gun (P320) is defective. I think the concept of selling a gun with no safety, no trigger 'doohickey, (a la Glock), and a trigger pull that light (4.5lbs) is defective. It is just too easy for that trigger to get pushed/pulled/bumped/nudged/tugged and fire the gun unintentionally. I like Sigs. I have Sigs. But a non-thumb safety 320 is a no-go for me. If all you used it for was competition/target shooting, maybe it would be okay. But as a "duty gun" in a holster? Nope. As a concealed carry gun, stashed on my person somewhere? Heck no! As a gun stashed in a drawer for home defense? Uh...maybe? Sig can say whatever they want, but it's not going to change the public's perception of the product at this point. Perception isn't reality but that doesn't matter if no one wants to buy your product because of fear it may 'accidentally' go off.

Lots of pollen and other allergens in those cemeteries. . .

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Come on man, we know FUJIMO paid you to post that. Joking aside , FUJIMO is a great member to deal with.

It's a marketing opportunity. The sharks smell blood in the water.............

2004 Red Bank Rd Sevierville

March 2025 Meeting - Tuesday the 18th is the third Tuesday of the month and the Tennessee Firearms Association monthly meeting will be held again at the Hermitage Golden Corral. The Guest Speaker is TFA Life Member Jonathan D. Low (www.DefensivePistolcraft.com) Mr. Low will be discussing advanced firearms training topics. Location: Golden Corral Hermitage 315 Old Lebanon Dirt Rd Hermitage, TN 37076 (615) 874-1313 IT IS IMPORTANT TO PAY AT GOLDEN CORRAL AS YOU COME IN FOR THE MEETING IF YOU ARE EATING. TELL THEM THAT AT THE CASH REGISTER THAT YOU ARE THERE FOR THE MEETING AND TO APPLY THE "GROUP RATE" WHICH SHOULD INCLUDE YOUR DRINK. Guest Speaker and Program starts at 6:30pm - meal/social at starts as early as 5 with meal between 6pm and 6:29pm. Wrap at approx. 7:45pm

Very much understood. I should have added that we met with the young man first and got good "vibes" from him. I know that's not necessarily a good thing to go by. But we did. Like many here, face-to-face conversations, and first impressions are an indicator for us as to how someone is recieved. Still...it is a risk. I understand.

Glad to hear it’s going well for you.

Praise the Lord good news period.

Champion 7500 watt dual fuel Generator. I have never ran gas, only ran on propane. Starts, runs, and powers like it should. Gas tank has dent that is cosmetic only. Used during 3 power outages over last 2 years. Comes with partially filled 20lb cylinder and LP hose. Located in Norene, can meet in Murfreesboro - Lebanon area. $500

Can you PM me i might have a trade offer. Thanks

I would be unhappy to learn that someone had carried inside my home without telling me first. I'm a strong proponent of our right to carry arms, and to carry concealed. But I do not believe that right extends into another person's home. It's clear from your post that you were okay with it, but I would have not have been.

I've dropped my 320 X-Carry at least 3-4 times in training and have never had an accidental misfire. I don't train on concrete but I know on hard packed sand there isn't an issue. I will still carry it as a main secondary with no worries though.

I visited Audy Murphy's grave along with the Challenger Astronauts Memorial while there. Also seen the John Kennedy flame. Truly hallowed ground. I also visited Gettysburg Cemetary, and it ticked me off when the guide told me why no Vietnam hero's were not interred in that cemetery, which he exclaimed the cemetery was still an active burial site.

1928 production springfield 1903 has original barrel dated 11-28 Asking 1000$ located in Murfreesboro More pictures https://imgur.com/a/mFXae0p

I’ve been to several in Europe and England. I was most impressed with the Lorraine American Military Cemetery in St. Avold, France, and the one in Luxembourg where Patton is buried. Also visited the Vietnam Nam War Memorial and the WW2 Memorial on my only trip to dc. And both were awesome inspiring.

It is quite moving. Much sacrifice is visualized in these hallowed grounds.

Not the usual way of doing business on TGO- If you want to dicker you need to PM-

Thanks guys. I tried SMGA first and they claim they aren't a Blue Label dealer. Bill's Outpost said they are out of Blue Label stock and he isn't sure what the plan is going forward and suggested I contact Craig's on Chapman Hwy, so I'm going to try them next.

We used to be able to own them without any worries. Leftist commies ruined it all!

SHTF - my first choice would be my kukri because size matters, LOL, but I can get more done with my Victorinox Huntsman.

Mine is the First Edge 5050 fixed blade survival knife. I’ve had it and many other knives for several years. I believe this one might have come from one of Willis’s group buys a few years ago. I keep this one loaded on a cart with a few other essentials in case we need to get to my truck quickly.

I'm with MacGyver on this one, I will save up and support the creators rather than buying a knockoff. Sure they are higher priced but you are paying for the time and effort of design as well as the assurance that you are getting what you paid for. I highly doubt that a company that is willing to blatantly rip off a design is going to use the same materials as the original and charge significantly less. Unless you've got some high end tools you are taking the vendor's word that the Magnacut, D2, S90V, whatever steel they are claiming is what you are actually getting. As to the original question I would have no regrets grabbing my ESEE-5 for any hard use outdoor task. That thing takes an absolute beating and keeps on ticking. I will admit lately I have been bit by the MKC knives and while I don't think they would stand up to the same abuse as the ESEE-5 they are super lightweight and do a fantastic job at their intended purpose.

Range report: this thing is sweet!!! Much more accurate than I am. Have to get used to shooting a revolver again.

The problem with this whole thing is it isn't really the law. It's not like they have to get this read into the Federal Register. It's been "once a rifle - always a rifle" for decades. Now, they're saying differently. They can go back next week if they want with no real reprocussions.